Comments on: Why so many pro-life Catholics backed Obama http://www.andysword.com/?p=67 Father Andrew M Greeley's Blog Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:33:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jack http://www.andysword.com/?p=67&cpage=1#comment-203 Jack Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:41:56 +0000 http://www.andysword.com/?p=67#comment-203 I couldn't agree more. I just wish I knew how to sent this to our local bishop, assuming he would read anything disagreeing with him. I grew up in a culture where parish priests told (or tried to tell) parishioners how to vote and I won't go there again. Let's all remember, ordination does not confer either good judgement or an understanding of what our country and our communities need at a particular time. Cardinal Ratzinger was right, in a contest between two or three people, pick the best person and work for the greater good. I couldn’t agree more. I just wish I knew how to sent this to our local bishop, assuming he would read anything disagreeing with him.

I grew up in a culture where parish priests told (or tried to tell) parishioners how to vote and I won’t go there again.

Let’s all remember, ordination does not confer either good judgement or an understanding of what our country and our communities need at a particular time.

Cardinal Ratzinger was right, in a contest between two or three people, pick the best person and work for the greater good.

]]> By: michaelcollins http://www.andysword.com/?p=67&cpage=1#comment-196 michaelcollins Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:58:00 +0000 http://www.andysword.com/?p=67#comment-196 As a former liberal, turned conservative turned agast, I have no respect for either party, and no belief they will do as they say. As a Catholic I disagree with Father Greeley on the voting issue. I do not agree with either with a lot of the social policy issues of the democratics because I believe they have failed and created the breakup of minority families and do not believe the republicans stand for the issues they run on. Therefore, while I acknowledge Father's belief in the great socities programs I believe are failures I cannot vote for a democrat who will legislate abortion into a non issue. While I agree the Bush administration has turned out to be a failure I do not believe it was due to stupidity or wickedness. I also do not agree that war is always evil. I believe that either an intended or unintended consequence of the war has been no more attacks on the US and while I am sorry for all victems of war and terrorism I am grateful that we have lost no more innocent lives. The end result is while I believe there are issues catholics can argue justify their vote for the democrat, I cannot in good conscous see it and believe it is turning a blind eye on the teachings of the church because of the belief that one side is evil and that side has led during an economic downturn which justifies voting for the other side who have less moral ground than the republicans, who have no more record to justify a vote for than the other side. I love Father and respect his opinions and teachings, but while I was a child of the 60's to a small extint, well I was 11 when they ended, I do not believe most of the programs have been successes. In fact, I am not sure if anyone has answers to governing except to say it is a cyclical business and if you are lucky enough to govern durning an upturn you are brilliant and a moron if you govern during a downturn, Bush and Carter being perfect examples. As a former liberal, turned conservative turned agast, I have no respect for either party, and no belief they will do as they say. As a Catholic I disagree with Father Greeley on the voting issue. I do not agree with either with a lot of the social policy issues of the democratics because I believe they have failed and created the breakup of minority families and do not believe the republicans stand for the issues they run on. Therefore, while I acknowledge Father’s belief in the great socities programs I believe are failures I cannot vote for a democrat who will legislate abortion into a non issue. While I agree the Bush administration has turned out to be a failure I do not believe it was due to stupidity or wickedness. I also do not agree that war is always evil. I believe that either an intended or unintended consequence of the war has been no more attacks on the US and while I am sorry for all victems of war and terrorism I am grateful that we have lost no more innocent lives.

The end result is while I believe there are issues catholics can argue justify their vote for the democrat, I cannot in good conscous see it and believe it is turning a blind eye on the teachings of the church because of the belief that one side is evil and that side has led during an economic downturn which justifies voting for the other side who have less moral ground than the republicans, who have no more record to justify a vote for than the other side.

I love Father and respect his opinions and teachings, but while I was a child of the 60′s to a small extint, well I was 11 when they ended, I do not believe most of the programs have been successes. In fact, I am not sure if anyone has answers to governing except to say it is a cyclical business and if you are lucky enough to govern durning an upturn you are brilliant and a moron if you govern during a downturn, Bush and Carter being perfect examples.

]]> By: chsnyfn http://www.andysword.com/?p=67&cpage=1#comment-132 chsnyfn Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:32:56 +0000 http://www.andysword.com/?p=67#comment-132 As I catholic who wants to follow all of the church teachings, I have struggled with this issue greatly during this election. I ultimately feel that morality is a choice that each individual makes for themselves, and that making abortion illegal is not going to stop it from happening. It is just going to put those who choose it at greater risk. Republicans are supposed to stand for less government regulation, however on this issue, they feel it is okay to make laws controlling this very personal decision. I appreciate the above comment from the cantonst to continue to pray and volunteer her time at the crisis center. That is what I feel Catholics can best do to try and eliminate/lower the abortion rate. Being there and education for these struggling parents is the way to help them. I did vote for Barack Obama, despite my bishops call not to, because after much prayer, that is what my conscience told me was the right thing to to. As I catholic who wants to follow all of the church teachings, I have struggled with this issue greatly during this election. I ultimately feel that morality is a choice that each individual makes for themselves, and that making abortion illegal is not going to stop it from happening. It is just going to put those who choose it at greater risk.

Republicans are supposed to stand for less government regulation, however on this issue, they feel it is okay to make laws controlling this very personal decision.

I appreciate the above comment from the cantonst to continue to pray and volunteer her time at the crisis center. That is what I feel Catholics can best do to try and eliminate/lower the abortion rate. Being there and education for these struggling parents is the way to help them.

I did vote for Barack Obama, despite my bishops call not to, because after much prayer, that is what my conscience told me was the right thing to to.

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